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Scientific Molding Strategies for Troubleshooting (Webinar Q & A)

Posted on July 6, 2011 by Guest Author

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By John Bozzelli

The following are questions posed by participants who attended John’s webinar presentation on “Scientific Molding Strategy for Troubleshooting” on June 8, 2007.

Q. How does screw L/D effect voids or bubbles?
A. First, Length to Diameter (L/D) of a screw will only influence bubbles, not voids. Short L/D screws literally can pump air bubbles into parts. Especially new screws and barrels with short L/D’s. The problem is the length of the feed section is too short (the air between the granules is trapped and cannot be vented out the feed throat) to prepare the resin for the transition section and the transition section is too short to melt the plastic granules properly. You get both unmelted solids and air bubbles especially with new equipment using a large percentage of the barrel. Also, remember the feed throat is a vent, make sure you know what you are doing before “looking” into the hopper. Talk to a few processors and someone will tell you stories of the hopper being blown to and through the roof.

Q. How do you troubleshoot weld or knit lines? Is there a way to process them out?
A. Usually you can spot a weldline or knitline by noting the flow path of the plastic filling a part and seeing where two or more flow fronts meet. It is usually a weak section of the part; it often breaks in a brittle mode. Sometimes there is a cosmetic blemish, like scratch or grove, non-fill, burn or blush. To find out, short shoot the part by change position transfer under velocity control, do NOT do this by adjusting 1st stage pressure. To process them out is very difficult but here are some tips: VENT the area where the flow fronts meet, vent core pins, increase injection speed, remove the filler if a filled resin, try a lower molecular weight resin (but make sure your performance is not sacrificed), make sure you are running under velocity control with a delta P, form the weldline during first stage, provide a flow tap at the weldline (this will have to be removed later and will look like a gate) and finally redesign the part or change gate location to put the weldline in a non-performance area of the part… if that is possible.

Q. On the Arburg Silogica you are able to set the pack/holder velocity to zero, is that doing the same effect as zeroing the pressure? The screw does not bounce back with velocity set at zero; if pressure is set at zero the screw moves backwards.
A. Do not set the pack velocity to zero. Set it to the value you will be using during production. You need to see the over-travel after the screw reaches the stroke transfer position. It is OK to have some screw bounce back, especially during the development of the viscosity curve.
A. Injection regulation on Arburg’s puts pressure on both sides of the hydraulic ram; and it acts as a breaking mechanism. Most hydraulic machines do not have this breaking capability. It acts like an electric machine.

Q. On the velocity curve study form is it necessary to switch the units to psi from bar?
A. No, any pressure units are fine.

Q. Is the 99% full part determined by first making a “full” part?
A. Some folks do it that way, but it is not my recommendation. Do it by sight (volume). In addition, the part can be 90% to 99.9% full. For some high cavitation tools, some parts will be quite short and some full. For thin wall or living hinge applications go to 99.99% full by sight.

Q. What machine pressure and velocity is used to perform the pressure loss analysis?
A.. First, do the viscosity curve. From the viscosity curve, you determine the fill time for production use that fill time. Pressure required is NOT a set point, the machine must be allowed use whatever pressure it needs to achieve the velocity. That is the 1st stage must be set up like cruise control on a car. You set velocity; you do NOT set how much energy from the engine the car needs to go the speed you want. Many processors do not know how to set up a machine to function this way, but it is the best way to setup and run a process in injection molding.

Q. How do you run velocity curve when using amorphous resins that do not respond too well to shear rate?
A. It is my understanding that this question relates to polycarbonate (PC). For nearly all resins, 99.2% of all that are out there, do the viscosity curve as you would normally do it. Run with a delta P, change only velocity and take the data from as fast the machine can inject, making a short shot to as slow as 10 -15 seconds fill time on normal nominal wall parts. For thin wall, this may only be 3-6 seconds due freezing of the flow front. By the way, PC does respond well to shear rate, perhaps not as much as some other resins but still it changes viscosity by orders of magnitude.

Q. Where can you purchase the pressure sensitive paper?
A. To purchase the pressure sensitive paper visit Sensor Products, SensorProd.com; 1-800-755-2201. Tell them, I sent you and that they ought to treat me better. They also have a “Tactilus” method but more expense: www.sensorprod.com/dynamic/injectionmolding.php

Thank you all for your time.

– John B.

About the Author

John Bozzelli
Injection Molding (IM) Solutions
1019 Balfour St.
Midland, MI 48640-3227
Phone: 989-832-2424
Fax 989-832-8743
Email: john@scientificmolding.com
www.ScientificMolding.com
John Bozzelli is a graduate of Marietta College (BS) and Ohio University (MS). His studies were interrupted for a stint in Vietnam (US Army, Purple Heart; Silver Star). Twenty years in Dow Plastics provided extensive experience in polymer synthesis, development, production, and processing. John has been a seminar leader with RJG Associates, Injection Molding Magazine, University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, General Polymers and John Klees. Competent in resin characterization and analysis, his specialty is practical, hands-on injection molding training with both small and large machines. National recognition has come through ten patents, over 60 papers covering plastics, processing, machine specifications, and over 12 years on the national seminar circuit. Feature articles such as the “Productivity”; by Plastics World and ”Scientific Molding” by Injection Molding Magazine October, November and December 1997, have highlighted a couple of exemplar case histories. Check out the August 2001 issue for applications of The Universal Set Up Sheet.John is the initiator of Scientific Injection Molding and teaches the plastic’s point of view for design and processing with a passion you will remember. Take some of your valuable time to learn practical molding techniques that improve your profits tomorrow while eliminating the state of ”fire fighting“ currently found in many molding facilities. Let us keep plastic manufacturing strong in North America.

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